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Why It Isn't "All About That Bass".


I'm sure you've all heard that popular song "All About That Base" by Meghan Trainor by now, I won't link it as quite frankly it's the last thing I'd like to boost traffic to from my blog. It irritated and angered me after the first time I listened to it but after sitting in the back of my Stepmother's car hearing my two kid sisters singing it this morning - I felt like I needed to speak up. I wrote a post earlier on in the year regarding size-shaming and I'm sorry if both cross over each other but I feel it's important to raise this point again.

Body confidence is fantastic; whether you celebrate your DD's or love your slender legs, that's okay, as long as you don't feel the need to put down somebody of a different shape in order to boost yours. 

Over the last few years, we've seen the likes of Kim Kardashian make big bums and boobs the new desired features; a sway from the "ideal" slim figures we saw during the 00's. Whilst celebrating curvier shapes is fantastic, it doesn't give much way to celebrate those who are also naturally slender and don't have those said curves. Different body parts become en vogue over the centuries unfortunately; whether it be the 1930's love of a woman's back or the 1990's love of décolletage. Body parts shouldn't be "in" nor "out" - they're there to help keep us alive and physically able to do things and not there so we can remain desirable or fashionable.

The influx of slim-shaming over the last 2-3 years has been absolutely horrific and some may argue that women with curves have been given stick for longer and "deserve to have their time" (an actual quote I received off of a Twitter follower before) but that's not how it works and it WON'T help the acceptance us women still seek and need from everyone - especially each other. 

How can you call yourself a feminist but enjoy listening to and supporting songs such as Meghan's? Do women who lack that "bass" instantly fall into an unwell/ obviously dieting/ not attractive/ "wrong" category? Is the fact that some people are naturally born slender just fizzling out? It isn't a myth. Some people are natural 6's, some people are natural 16's. 

Let's move on to the lyrics of "All About That Bass" for a minute, the second verse being the most offensive, I think - prepare yourself: "Yeah, it's pretty clear, I ain't no size two but I can shake it, shake it like I'm supposed to do. 'Cause I got that boom boom that all the boys chase and all the right junk in all the right places.."

Sigh.

There are so many things wrong with this verse, SO MANY. For a start, a US size 2 is a UK size 6 - I'm a 6-8 on top and I'm pretty sure I'm physically able to "shake it". Why are we "supposed to" shake it, anyway? Were women only put on this planet to "shake it"? Who cares about things such as a career, health and happiness, just as long as you can twerk..

Apparently boys only chase "that boom boom" by the way and prefer all of the "right junk in all the right places" - I could go on for a month over how twisted this line in particular is but let me try whittle it down: boys (and girls) tend to chase whatever they're personally attracted to. Mind-blowing.

Referring to body fat as "junk" contradicts her attempt at empowering a curvier body too, no? Associating body fat with a word such as "junk" instantly leads to negative connotations. 

I'm laughing to myself typing this all out as I genuinely can't get over the sheer ridiculousness of this song and how the entire global population seems to just ignore it. If a song was released referring to "fat bitches" and how slim bodies are "right" and having "junk" at all is gross and so on, there'd be uproar and I highly doubt it would have been given as much air-time as "All About That Bass".

According to Meghan's mother in the fourth verse: "boys like a little more booty to hold at night". Sorry, what? Like I said, I'm pretty sure men have their own preferences as to what they want to hold at night. Women aren't pillows; we're not here to be held on to like a teddy. Thanks to the mindset of Meghan and her Mother, we now have women (mostly young girls) worldwide, looking at their bodies and bums and thinking they'll inevitably be unattractive to men for eternity and are on this planet to be used as bedtime accessories. Good going, Meghan! 

I went through my ENTIRE teenage years feeling absolutely disgustingly unattractive and unconfident because of songs like these. I used to cry on a daily basis because of my lack of chest and being called a "boy" consistently. Even now at the age of 21, I still have hang ups which drive me insane, genuinely, as I know my body shape or features don't define who I am as a person. 

People like Meghan and her songs are exactly what is sending feminism decades back. These songs are what cause pre-teens, teenagers and even adults to develop negative mindsets over their own body and subsequently, develop eating disorders and mental illnesses. On that note, here's a quote from Meghan herself on eating disorders:

"I wasn't strong enough to have an eating disorder. I tried to go anorexic for a good three hours. I ate ice and celery, but that's not even anorexic. And I quit. I was like, 'Ma, can you make me a sandwich? Like, immediately'."

There's no point in even elaborating on that quote because any human with an inch of intelligence can see how downright idiotic, ignorant and offensive it is. She has also been quoted on saying that she isn't a feminist but no surprise there, really.

Our bodies aren't here to be groped at or stared at by men or anyone for that matter, your bum isn't there to be grabbed or held on to. You aren't on this planet to be seen and thrown around like an object, you're a human being.

Meghan's attempt at empowering women who have beautiful curves goes so horribly wrong with this song as she thinks in order to celebrate these curves, those without need to be put down, pointed at and immediately disregarded as attractive. 

Hearing my 9 and 6 year old sisters singing along to this song earlier broke my heart because as children, they've no idea how destructive the lyrics are and kids never really pay attention to that anyway. However, these lyrics are playing over and over in their growing brains and that scares me - it's a perfect example of how body and mental issues start developing. 

Please remember that whether you have huge boobs or no boobs, a curvy bum or a petite bum, wide hips or slim hips, you are still FEMININE, SEXY and worthy of ANYONE'S attention. Your shape, size and features do not define you or anyone else as a person. Your morals, intelligence and personality are far more important than how much "booty" you have, believe me. 
Don't let any brain-dead pop star tell you otherwise.



Side-note: I'm aware some people may disagree with me on this and love the song and find it empowering BUT that doesn't mean it makes it okay! Remember, just because you're not offended by something - that doesn't mean others should feel the same way. That doesn't justify it. This song has offended so many people worldwide, including me, that's why I wrote this post.
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  1. I'm so glad you've written a post about this Leanne <3

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  2. Yes!
    I'm sick of people thinking this song is celebrating body confidence because it definitely isn't for me, anyway. So one sided, therefore so hypocritical of gender equality.
    Thank you for saying this in such an articulate way! :)

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  3. I've never heard the full song, only the chorus in ads and social medie and stuff, but what the HELL!? How was that given the go ahead to record!? That's so offensive on so many levels..

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  4. I can't agree with this more! I was absolutely disgusted when I heard the song especially the line about 'skinny bitches'.. Finally someone put it out there thank you Leanne! X

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  5. I completely agree.. If Miley or someone released a song saying that boys only like skinny girls, there'd be uproar. I think this just goes to show what people will do for their 15 minutes of fame, I think Meghan will be forgotten by this time next year. You don't hear someone like Adele singing about her "booty", because she doesn't need to. She earned her fame by working hard for it and by producing good quality music, not by selling out and singing about her arse just to make a few quid.

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    1. I agree with this whole-heartedly. However as a "bigger" "curvier" or whatever word you want to use, women this song is pretty empowering. I get all the feminism crap about how women are not meant to be set objects and how we aren't just our bodies, I 100% agree. What I would like to say is that all my live I have been shamed for being fat, one guy actually once said to me that he wouldn't go near me just because I have a bit of a belly. There seems to be this misconception that the perfect figure is a big bum (which I have) skinny waist and iron board stomach. This isn't what everyones body shape is obviously, but both slender girls and bigger girls feel victimised by the likes of Kim Kardashian (whom I love and think is bloody stunning) and her "perfect" figure. At the end of the day this song does make me feel pretty good, not looking at it as feminist I can say that finally there's a song that isn't just about big butt's and how they can't lie and tiny waists. It's about showing that even if you have a flabby belly and your thighs clap you on as you run, you're still worthy of love (just as much as every other girl with different body shapes.) and there's still going to be guys out there who find you attractive. As for the "big girls finally have their limelight" side of things, thank god for that. For years I've been told that I can't possibly healthy, that someone over a size 12 UK must have health issues and must have diabetes and must have a high cholesterol whilst supermodels who were quite frankly Ill weren't victimised. I am a UK size 16, I've had check ups at the doctors and I am in a perfect bill of health, my sister on the other hand who is a UK size 8 whilst relatively healthy had a pretty high cholesterol. Now I believe that every body is beautiful and that we should look past women's body's and that personality and intelligence should come first. But that sadly isn't the case. There are models like Tess Munster who get shamed on their body shape just because they aren't what is deemed as society's "perfect body"
      I like this song, I like that people are finally realising that bigger girls have a place in society, that I finally have a song that says you know what yes you have a bit of junk in yo trunk (slang, not to be taken so literally) and you're one sexy lady! I'm not a feminist and frankly I kinda hate the way some feminists read too much into things just like a lot of women have done with this song. As for her comment on Anorexia, yes it was stupid yes it was clearly an idiotic thing to say, but what you've got to remember is that sadly a lot of young girls who are a wee bit bigger than some others do try to be anorexic (which is impossible it's a mental disorder you can't try to be that way) but they've been deemed as unacceptable so they try to fix that by looking at uber skinny models and think yup I can look like that when they can't because that's their natural body shape just like being fat is my natural body shape. It's not songs like this you need to focus on its society's way of saying "you're fat that's disgusting" that we need to abolish. (I've also seen comments floating about the Internet saying being skinny is disgusting and that needs to change as well!!) SOCIETY IS FUCKED UP and has been for ages, this song isn't that bad in comparison to a lot of horrible stuff on the Internet and quite frankly if this song makes one young girl look at her not so flat stomach and say "hey I'm pretty" that's not a bad thing in my books.

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    2. I want to reply to this first before the thread as a whole.

      "I'm not a feminist and frankly I kinda hate the way some feminists read too much into things just like a lot of women have done with this song."
      For a start feminism isn't just about women not being sexualised. That's actually only a part of it. To say that you're not a feminist is to say that you don't believe women have equal rights to men. So you don't believe that you as a woman should be allowed to go to school or university? You're happy to work just as hard as a man and be paid less? You don't believe that women should be allowed to work as doctors or in businesses? Because THOSE are the things that feminism stands for. I agree with Emma Watson, feminism has become such a dirty word and so many people jump onto the 'I don't agree with feminism' bandwagon without actually understanding what it even means.

      Secondly she's not reading too much into it. Those are actual lyrics. It's not like she's reading between the lines she's just pointing out for those that haven't heard the song what the lyrics actually are.

      I personally don't feel offended by the song. I'm a size 4-8 in UK sizing depending on the shop so I am one of those "skinny bitches" that she's talking about. But I'm happy with the way I am. I eat relatively healthily (too much chocolate but we all have something haha) and exercise a little bit (probably should do more) but I'm naturally very small. If people don't like it then that's their problem not mine.

      But do you have ANY idea how regularly I've been shamed about my body size?

      It really makes me angry when people go on and on about how "above average" sized people have it so much worse. Even my friends who are a size 14-18 agree that I get body shamed far more than they do. I'm not saying that's always the case, but it's completely incorrect to say that it's worse for people that are a bigger size. Nor is it a new thing. There has been an obsession with bigger bums since before even Jennifer Lopez. I know adults of all ages that have spent YEARS being asked if they have an eating disorder, why are they so small, what's wrong with them, why don't they eat anything.

      This ISN'T a feminism issue. This is a not being rude about someone else's body issue.

      How would YOU feel as someone that's obviously been criticised for their size, if the song was saying that skinny size 0 girls were what men wanted? How would it make you feel?

      If it's not okay to make you feel bad for your size, it's not okay to make ANYONE feel bad. Male or female. Size 0 or size 20. There is NEVER a need for anyone that isn't your GP to make any weight comments at all. Or any other comments about personal appearance.

      I cannot fathom how anyone thinks it's okay to say how someone looks is wrong, even if it's just as a joke. It's like we all forgot the lesson we should have learnt as small children. Would you like someone to do it to you? No. Then don't do it to someone else.

      Larger ladies have no more right to criticise the appearance of someone that's size 2 than I, as an average size 2, has to criticise someone that's a size 14.

      Oh and on a sidenote she's not even right about skinny people not having curves. I'm a D cup, and because I only have a 23 inch waist I also have an hourglass figure. And a bum. Just saying. ;) I'm just a smaller curvy than someone that's a size 18.

      Not that it's wrong not to be curvy at all whatever size you are, just pointing out that even her biology is flawed.

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    3. Of course I agree with feminism but I hate "feminists" that get but hurt over the most stupid things eg this song and a scientist wearing a shirt with naked women on it. There's no need, yes I agree women and men should have equal rights but when women start getting offended at the most ridiculous thing there's just no need. You don't see men getting upset and angry over women wearing shirts with guys in it. Also how hypocritical is it to in one sentence say "what I wear doesn't justify being sexulised" then in another get offended at a shirt with a naked women on it! What even is that? get a grip man. And no I would not be offended if someone came out and said only guys want skinny girls cos I'm not ignorant enough to read into a song too much, and also I'm not ignorant enough to think that a song is gonna tell me exactly what a guy likes in me. It's a song get a grip.

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  6. I only have a single input. There are specific lyrics that everyone seems to be ignoring,
    " I'm bringing booty back
    Go ahead and tell them skinny bitches that
    No I'm just playing. I know you think you're fat
    But I'm here to tell ya
    Every inch of you is perfect from the bottom to the top"
    If you look at the lyrics you and actually read them. She says "No I'm just playing. I know you think you're fat". Granted I get that the song seems like a cry of size shaming. But in that line she's speaking to all women. Deep down everyone thinks of themselves as fat at one point or another. It is something all of us struggle with even if we do not admit it. I respect anyone's opinion. I just wanted to put this put there.

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    1. If that verse was taken out and put into a song where the offensiveness was left out completely in regards to slender women, fine, but it's part of this song and unfortunately that doesn't make it okay. Like I said in the post, she's attempting to empower women here but goes about it in a completely backwards way.

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    2. I do agree it is an off way to try to empower someone by saying certain offensivess. They definitely could have been left out.

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  7. I completely agree with everything you've said here - I'm naturally slim and find it difficult to gain weight, and while I don't take a lot of personal offense from skinny-shaming (because I'm generally happy with my body despite this 'song' basically telling me not to be), I do think it's completely unnecessary, and if it was the other way round and curvier women were being slated, A LOT of people would have A LOT to say about it. It also sickens me that a certain very popular blogger/Youtuber has made a post defending this song, saying it celebrates all body types, further encouraging her wide audience to listen to the song and agree with the lyrics - what a joke!

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  8. Thank you Leanne so much, this is so accurate. Too many people have been praising this song about how it's so empowering for females when it's quite the opposite! I totally agree with you x

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  9. Hi Leanne, whereas I agree with many many points in this blog post and I totally respect your opinion, I don't agree with some of it. As a feminist I support women no matter what. Whether that means they want to dress in a hijab, or walk down the street in a thong. Whether they want to be a business woman, or whether they want to be a stay at home mum. Similarly, if a woman wants to have their 'booty' held at night by someone, wonderful. It's their choice what to do with their bodies, right? So pointing out this line as being anti-feminist is wrong in my opinion.

    Also, whereas I am sure that being discriminated against because someone is 'thin' hurts and damages someone just as much as being discriminated against because someone is 'fat' (I hate using these words but you get the picture), you cannot deny that there is such a thing as thin privilege, as thin is considered much much more beautiful in our culture/media. Sometimes, the oppressed (which in this case is people considered 'fat') need an opportunity to celebrate themselves, and unfortunately, as it has done here, it can alienate those who do not share their defining characteristic. Should this stop them though from doing so? I believe not. You cannot make everyone happy, and people will always find something to be offended by.

    Though this song DOES discriminate against those who don't have the 'bass' or the 'junk' etc etc there are THOUSANDS of songs out there which do the exact opposite. They might not be as explicit as this one, but they do exist. I find this song refreshing personally, though I would chose to omit certain parts if I could. It has given me a boost is body positivity, which, believe me, is very rare. Though I can understand your annoyance of it.

    As for her ridiculous comments about eating disorders, I think that we can both agree that they are horrendous. As is her statement that she is 'not a feminist'. Being a woman and claiming you aren't is like saying that you have no belief or love for yourself. Again horrendous.

    Thanks for the post, it has certainly made me think :)
    Jasmine x

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  10. i totally respect your opinion and i get where youre coming from, and i am not justifying anything, but i think after she said the thing about skinny bitches, the song goes ' just kidding'.As a girl being 15 and bigger than other girls my age, this song kind of makes me feel as if there is nothing wrong with being bigger. and i totally get that it is unnessecary being offensive to skinnier girls, but you cant deny that being skinny is to be displayed in media these days as the 'perfect' figure, or the most 'desired' body. and i do feel as if she is trying to prove society a point by writing this song. because of the body ideal these days, a lot of young girls who are easily influenced by media are getting eating disorders, not just because of this but it has a big part in this thing.

    sorry if my english sucks im not a native speaker.
    x

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  11. Great post, well written. You put into words why this song wasn't sitting right with me. Being smaller sized myself the line "boys like a little more booty...." made me feel inadequate and worthless and I didn't realize why until I read your post. It is offensive to those with smaller curves, disguised as being "pro curves". Horrible. Anyway, well done. I hope this gets a lot of hits.

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  12. Im glad you wrote this and truly understand where your coming from, I think every body should be appreciated for whatever size it is regardless of whether 'curvy bodies have been shamed for years'. I also think the main problem with issues like this is that artists/movies etc don't know where to draw the line from a fun song about modern culture to body shaming - which then goes on to effect the lives of millions on people quite rapidly.

    -Magenta x
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  13. Leanne I have been a reader/viewer of yours for a very long time. I completely understand where you are coming from but the intent of this song is not to be offensive.
    I myself have grown up with body issues etc. I know how it feels. Yes this song can be perceived as being empowering to women and girls who are of a curvier nature but many women have felt "fat" at done point of their lives.
    The song isn't body shaming. I think that it speaks to everyone and has a good beat to it.
    You have read to deeply into it. Yes Meghan has refereed to slender woman as "skinny bitches" but she does say after this "I'm just playing".
    Even when she says "I'm bring booty back" is she referring to larger/curvier bums? No she is not she is merely saying it. She doesn't pin point what is right and what is wrong with women's bodies.
    Not many women and girls are happy in their own skin. Yes this song is directed towards more curvier females but it isn't saying slender women are unattractive. I think you read to deeply into this.

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  14. Your blog is your personal platform for your opinions - like the fashion/style we all post, it's subjective and we all like what we like! There does come a point where people feel 'shamed' for looking "too much" of a certain way and that's potentially toxic for society - however if how they look is representative of a potential risk to their wellbeing (I.e. Morbidly obese or dangerous underweight) then it's apportant to address that, but appropriately, not shamefully as that's just as toxic. You're spot on every man appreciates something different! I go through a crisis of confidence quite regularly as my body shape has changed over the last 4/5yrs as I've lost weight to become healthier, and for me personally it helps enormously that the likes of Kim K/J-LO/Iggy Azaelia are representing my figure in the public eye and that people appreciate it as beautiful. Sorry for the epic, hope it makes sense! 👌😙 curiousaliceloves.wordpress.com

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  15. FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS ME

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  16. This post was amazing. I completely relate to everything, being a slim girl myself. I hate how women only put each other down to make themselves feel better, it's just pathetic and the fact we are always comparing ourselves and never feeling good enough about ourselves. Thank you for sharing this post :)

    http://ellasw0rld.blogspot.co.uk

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  17. I completely agree with this post, I help in a year 8 class (12/13 year olds) and I frequently overhear them talking about this song. It breaks my heart when they say that they can't be attractive as they're 'too skinny', they're 12/13 years old for gods sake they shouldn't be thinking this way! There's just too much negativity surrounding body image, no matter how you look in today's society there is always someone who wants to put you down, and Meghan Trainors song aims to empower women with a certain shape but in the process she puts down millions of women and girls. I don't think this was ever intended but everyone needs to learn to love themselves and think of how other people could portray their message!

    Thank you for sharing this post, something needed to be said!

    Meg
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  18. This post is so so on point! And written with such sass too. The fact she's actually said 'I tried to be anorexic' is just plain rude. Go girl!

    http://jasminlouisey.blogspot.co.uk

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  19. I agree with all of this, I hate how this song is played so much and regarded as a 'feminism' song. However; there is so much slim shaming in the lyrics! Everyones bodies are beautiful and unique and men as well as women will have their own personal taste in body shapes! Different shapes and sizes should definitely be celebrated, but not like this

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  20. you cant pick and choose which parts of feminism you decide to support. i dont agree with the song and i get your blog post came from a certain view point and a pure place but can i say that bashing this song but continuing to support industry's and company's that thrive and survive on destroying womens self worth doesn't really add up. music for years has used fat women as a punch line, same with comedy and same with fashion. you cant really ignore that if you want to bring light to something that you may find offensive. hopefully the backfire from this song gives people a platform to work with and move forward in a positive direction. right now its just like heavy girls and skinny girls clashing with an "eye for an eye" type mindset that doesn't solve anything at all.

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  21. I'm so glad I came across this post. I'm still in high school, so I can see the effects of these sort of things quite easily. It's so wrong to judge people in any way, and no body shape is better of worse than another. It's not feminism, it's being human. No one should be judged on looks, which so many people don't realize. It's about being an individual, not being a body.
    Ariana // Thoughts Through a Teacup

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  22. You toke the words out of my mouth! this song angers me so much its unreal.

    http://www.thefashionhaven.com

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  23. Such a good post, I think everyone needs to read this!

    katiesfashionisland.blogspot.com

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  24. Finally! Ergh this song irritates me SO MUCH, it is totally stupidddd.

    Sophie x

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  25. Couldn't agree with this post more! I was completely shocked when I heard this song and even more shocked at how well it's doing in the charts. It's an absolute disgrace, body shaming of any form shouldn't be acceptable, there's no such thing as a wrong or right size, ugh I'm angry just thinking about the song! x
    graciousghost.blogspot.com

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  26. I so agree with your point of view, when I first heard the song the 'skinny bitches' really jumped out at me and I thought WHAAAAT? How can someone place such negative connotations on slim girls and get away with it.. more than that make a top hit out of it? I am by no means thin, but at school I was. I remember a girl once saying to me 'god, you're sooo skinny!' and I replied 'more than a handful's a waste' she started crying as she was on the larger side and I got told off. I don;t know when it became innapropriate to call people fat but absolutely fine to call people skinny. It can be unhealthy to be too thin or too big so to me as long as you're healthy and happy then that should be all that matters.

    I'm now an adult woman and no longer a thin girl but I still find it incredibly frustrating to see other women insulting each other in this way. I really don't know how this song has become so successful without her having to make an apology about it but I'm waiting for a fat bitch parody song to be released for sure!

    Really do respect your opinion on this and I understand some people may feel empowered by this song but to me at the end of the day it's women slating other women and that to me is what's wrong with it. Regardless of size and shape we have so much more to offer the world and this shouldn't be what we judge each other on.

    Great post, well done x

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  27. I've had the same opinion about this song for a while now! Theres a line that says something like 'tell them skinny bitches'. now i'm not a 'skinny ' girl but I thin even as a woman this is really offensive. Fair enough if you prefer a curvier figure but some women can't help being skinny its not their fault. My best friend is naturally a size 6 and its her biggest insecurity.
    Emma xo | Missemmalouise12.blogspot.ie

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  28. I 100000% agree with you. Couldn't have put it better!

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  29. I'm a size 18 and I don't find this song empowering. In the slightest. It's actually the line "I'm bringing booty back, go 'head and tell them skinny bitches that" - that got me, had this discussion on twitter and as someone else pointed out, the only slim girl in the video appears to be wrapped in cling film. I'm all for being proud of your body - and Meghan is entitled to shake what she wants - but WHY at the expense of someone else? If this was reversed, and it was a song about being slim containing the line "go 'head and tell them fat bitches that" - the song wouldn't get played twice, never mind covered on Xfactor and played to death all day every day on the radio.

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  30. I love this Leanne and agree so much. Doesn't send out a good message in the slightest and it scars me to hear it played so much, especially to see many young girls singing along but not really knowing the message. Thanks for writing such an well though out post!

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  31. i get what you're saying. a song will only be truly empowering when no body types are scrutinized or put down

    dontcrycowboy

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  32. Hmm I agree with some of your points, but would you still feel the same if she was singing about how great being skinny was?
    I think that no matter what someone sings about someone will always have a negative opinion on it. It's a shame that people can't be proud of who they are without being slammed for it!

    I understand where you're coming from, my mother was aggressively bullied for being a "skinny bitch" throughout most of her life and as someone whom is a Anorexia survivor I can see how this song can be misleading & make people feel inadequate. But come on, if she's happy being curvy and wants to sing about it let her!!!

    Francesca xo | www.effstarbeauty.blogspot.com

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    1. If she were singing about how great being skinny was as explicitly as she's singing about how great being 'bigger' is, I can assure you that she'd get far more backlash than she's currently getting.

      While being thin is often highlighted as 'the ideal', in my experience it is far more politically correct to criticise someone for being at a lower weight than the other way round. A song about how great being skinny is would be branded 'irresponsible' and as a way of promoting an 'unrealistic' body image, while 'All About That Bass' is for some reason seen as being a feminist anthem; I personally see this as a major double standard.

      I don't have a problem with people being 'body confident' and expressing what they love about themselves; however this can be done without pitting women up against each other.

      For example if I have blue eyes I can sing about how I like them because "They're beautiful, like a clear sky" and leave it as that. I don't have to talk about how "guys like blue eyes like a clear sky- they're better than green eyes, which remind me of dirty ponds and brown eyes, which are the colour of sh*t." Not the best example, but I hope my point is taken. :)

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  33. So, if you're going to exercise your freedom of speech, collect cash on the ads we view, and allow an active comments section, then one would hope a forward-thinking gal such as yourself will not censor any opposing beliefs and instead, engage in discussion. This is not to say that if someone is genuinely being inappropriate you should not remove the comments, but you've got to abandon the idea that constructive criticism is outright wrong.

    2. Feminism

    No this song is not grounded in feminism, in any manner, but how dare you say "How can you call yourself a feminist but enjoy listening to and supporting songs such as Meghan's" thereby denouncing any feminist who enjoys the song. I doubt that your reading into, and your understanding of feminism is quite as deep as you would like to believe, you seem to subscribe to a more Shailene Woodley brand and understanding of feminism. Guess what Leanne, for the first year of my grandmother's life she wasn't recognized as a person in my country of origin, so that still feels very close to me, I have worked to inform myself about the strides we have made both in academia and the public sphere, you would benefit from doing the same.

    I believe in equality, yet believe that, regardless of how equal we make things professionally and publicly, sadly, in my lifetime, I believe certain elements of male privilege will remain. What do I mean by this? I mean that myself, and the women in my life, will still have a primal fear walking alone at night. Evolutionarily speaking, we as women can, lubricate ourselves, for lack of a better word, more easily to a wider spectrum of stimulants than our male counterparts. Why? in basic terms, they believe we developed this to protect against vaginal tearing back in our earlier days when we would be clubbed on the head and dragged back to fulfill another male primal instinct. That feature is intact, based on various studies, we have genuinely adapted due to a predisposition to sexual violence. A few decades in a few countries of increasing equality is not going to make our adaption disappear at any time in the near future. Do you talk about these great issues in feminist study? That we, as a gender, have developed psychological and physical instincts and reactions to protect ourselves, and although rape happens, everywhere, it is running increasingly rampant in many countries at the moment? Are you talking about how women in Saudi Arabia cannot even ride a bike, and are forbidden to wear colours for their full body covering? Or bodies of women found in Mexican cities are denounced as prostitutes for wearing red nail polish? No, you're not, but you are unabashedly claiming other women cannot call themselves a feminist if they like this song, aligning yourself as a true feminist.

    And you may argue that you do not talk about these issues because this is a fashion blog, and like another reader went into, honey, do you really want to go down that road? You actively support an industry that, quite outwardly, supports women being treated as prized ponies, being prodded for fat (and don't bring in the size 0 ban, you well know that is a new development and not pansupported). There is no crime in supporting fashion (I do) and feminism (I do as well), there are feminist designers, however I have yet to see any hard-hitting piece on your blog about these individuals, because you pick and choose, and you are ever so selective.

    And you quite regularly make ootds with American Apparel clothing, INTERNATIONALLY known for the objectification of women. But that doesn't work with your agenda at the moment..

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  34. 3. Victim Complex

    So, the media has 'been absolutely horrific" for slim shaming in the past few years? Well, last time I checked, the Victoria Secret Fashion Show is still airing regularly. You say you're a U.K 6-8, so US 2-4 for this argument, well, lets check out the "Angels" pinned as great tits-and-ass displays of premium sexuality who can "shake it shake it" Leanne, shall we?

    Ellingson - US 4
    Lima - US 4
    Ambrosio - US 2
    Kroes - US 6
    Prinsloo - US 6
    Swanepoel - US 0-2
    Kloss - US 0
    Heatherton - US 4
    Aldridge - US 2

    Whats that? Oh my goodness Leanne, all of those lovely ladies, largely believe to be "what all the boys chase" are a UK size 4-8!! But you're right, one of the biggest fashion events of the year pales in comparison to an Iggy Azalea, Nicki Minaj, and Meghan Trainor song for applauding one body type as superior to another.

    You cried every night and felt disgusting, but when you walked into Victoria's Secret, even if it was an "A" cup, they had a bra which fit your torso, Ms. Trainor probably couldn't. You can walk into any clothing store and find clothes that fit, and some great deals too, on some pretty current looks. But that girl who felt okay for a moment while listening to this song? She has to find a "Plus Sized" designated section, or find a store that is far less likely to carry something which both: fits her frame, and is current and not geared for someone much older. To add insult to injury, for a pair of jeans or blouse that you found for $20? That girl will find her size equivalent and have to pay often double, or triple, the cost you paid. And its not down to something as simple as more fabric = more money, its that the retail clothing industry is over saturated with clothing built to fit YOUR frame, not the people who gain faux-strength from this song.

    Another element you failed to highlight in that "Yeah, it's pretty clear, I ain't no size two but I can shake it, shake it like I'm supposed to do." portion of the song is where she says it is pretty clear she isn't a size 2 BUT she can shake is shake it like she's supposed to do. By language rules, what does that imply? That something she clearly should be IS a SIZE 2, BUT she is still going to shake what her mama gave her. If anything, that line supports you thin women as the ideal, and the second sentiment is her accepting her non-size 2 body, and accepting the junk in the places she has. Does a man need to validate it? No, but its a pop song.

    Again, lets go back to an evolutionary fact. It is subconscious, but men really do seek women with wider set hips, not necessarily meaning larger hips, but I digress, as evolutionarily speaking, those women have an easier go of giving birth (wider hips, more room for the baby to come out in laymens, you get me?). Does this mean you're not attractive for being smaller? No, social and cultural upbringing and conditioning shape what each person on this planet finds attractive, and the greater public stage promotes those smaller body types as what all the boys should chase.

    Again, it shouldn't be about men, but to build on your points of contention. No ones self-worth should be tied to anything and anyones view on them.

    You are quick to denounce women in history like Saartjie Baartman, whose large bottom was paraded around like a circus animal to be mocked by the Victorian elite, but was a large inspiration to women's usage of crinolines during this time. Yet another example of a woman with a larger body type being subjugated as less than the smaller (and at the time Caucasian) cultural norm. And if you want to talk about twerking, than you are getting into a large appropriation argument you are not prepared for. Songs don't have to talk about "fat bitches" because these girls already face a barrage of people in the media that they can't identify with, and the multi-million dollar diet industry telling them they are what is wrong.

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  35. "Eat a sandwich" "Anorexic", you are very right Leanne, that is FAR more damaging for a young girl to hear, than to have over-18s yell at her not to "break the sidewalk", children yell "Hippo" (because of their media conditioning to what is beautiful), and have classmates make up songs about her walking creating a "big earthquake". Now the point of this commentary is not to position smaller girls against larger girls, however when you, so actively and vehemently, preach about what the smaller girls face and how hurtful it is, someone needs to voice the poor little girl reading your blog who has been told she's so fat she'd be better off to kill herself. Seeing a 15 year old reading your blog, and seeing your media saturation in your home country, really necessitates someone voicing the people you are not, and worse, dismissing the despicable things those bigger little girls get to be told regularly as "just as damaging" as being told you look "unwell, go eat a sandwich, shapeless" being on the thinner side of the spectrum. It is NOT the same Ms. Woodfull, and to deny their long-suffering is deplorable.

    Further, your argument can be broken down culturally for its origins. Although Western ideals dominate the media, are we going to dismiss the experience of people outside of this Western umbrella? The literal billions (unlike your, now edited sentiment, of "millions" who agree with you) who live at a quality of life far beneath what you and myself do, and their ideals of beauty are shaped by those experiences. Let me embellish, my late friend who came from a central African country, had lost a great deal of weight due to a serious illness, and explained that she was trying to pack the weight back on, because back home, being thin is unattractive as thin people are thought to be sickly and likely suffering from A.I.D.S, GENUINELY unwell. So, in places like her home country, this stigma against the thin, is grounded in their personal and cultural experience. No, A.I.D.S is not cultural, it does not discriminate, but certain populations are more vulnerable and beliefs about it become engrained in peoples cultural experience.

    And this beauty ideal Ms. Trainor is referring to, is not in reference to those you, and a few of your readers, have mentioned, the Iggy Azaleas, Nicki Minajs, and Kim Kardashians of the world with "curves". These women have busts, and larger derrières, yet much smaller waists, these girls are not, in the real world, seen as those "all about that bass". If you've already forgotten, Jennifer Lawrence was HEAVILY (no pun intended) criticized for her "curvier" figure when she first began to become a fixture on the scene. This is someone who is on the thin side of the average weight spectrum in most Western countries, and she was still a beacon for criticism because she had boobs and a but. Now you are honestly saying that a girl who is a US size 14, 16, 18, 20 (U.K 18, 20, 22, 24) is just as victimized to believe her size and shape are wrong as someone, such as yourself, who has the measurements seen on most of our starlets? She is lambasted with healthy weighted female figures being called fat, or, the new friendly term for fat, "curvier" or "plus sized", which would imply, that at a weight much greater than those "curvy" stars, she must be morbidly obese? Despite what her G.P may say to the contrary. If you looked closely, you would realize that people like Taylor Swift and her BFF model Karlie Kloss are much closer in size to Iggy Azalea than they are to those girls feeling a fleeting moment of strength while hearing "All About that Bass" on the radio. Also, the bottoms on Nicki and Kim have been shown time and time again to be fake, further demonstrating to a girl with a similar but size, that she is wrong because she can't achieve quite the same waistline, because the human body range carries fat in different places.

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    1. But lets drive the issue home, the "horrific" issue of being told you look "unwell/ obviously dieting/ not attractive/ "wrong" category" is FAR more damaging, or, at the VERY least, equally as horrific (again, using your emotionally charged wording) as the girls being told to kill themselves, to not break the sidewalk, and have food wrappers taped to their locker. You continuously feel you've been slighted more than anyone, it is appalling.

      And if you want to deny thin privilege (weight discrimination is not illegal in the workplace, one of the only forms of discrimination still allowed, but surely you know that). So this demonstrates this form of discrimination is institutionalized, can you say the same for the thin?

      It stands to reason you don't believe in things like white privilege either then.

      So, if you are not aware of certain privileges, I will let you know that being caucasian, being heterosexual, and believe it or not, being thin are privileges you have (some philosophy writings call this your "invisible backpack")

      3. Mental Health

      You claim that Meghan's "I wasn't strong enough to have an eating disorder. I tried to go anorexic for a good three hours" Was truly damaging and an ignorant statement to make. Well, it wasn't the best statement, but lets read deeper into that, as you have this song. Have you any idea the struggle bigger girls go through daily? No, you have mentioned time and time again your genetic predisposition to a smaller size. A sad reality for many girls of a heavier build is that we do often attempt to force an eating disorder. Not eating, failing, and choosing to purge. Many larger girls will make light of it, because it comes from a dark and genuine place. Do I know that Meghan meant that? No, but I can infer it may be a possibility.

      Lets get to the bigger issue of why she "wasn't strong enough", and your statements that this song is "a perfect example of how body and mental issues start developing" and causes people "to develop negative mindsets over their own body and subsequently, develop eating disorders and mental illnesses."

      Well Leanne, as you promote yourself in Ireland as the poster child for suffering with and fighting mental illness, you well know that Anorexia and Bulimia Nervosa are not simply treated or cured by feeding sufferers, it is psychological, rooted in the mind. You would also acknowledge that in order the suffer from Anorexia and Bulimia Nervosa, and other forms of Body Dysmorphia, you have a predisposition which it stems from. Much like a person from a long line of Bipolar Disorder sufferers is likely to develop the condition, it does not simply appear out of nowhere. So saying a song like this subsequently causes people to "develop eating disorders and mental illnesses." is untrue. You cannot develop a mental illness, there are triggers, like we saw with Shell-Shocked, later Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder veterans, going through those experiences activated, for a lack of a better word, their illness, but not everyone with those experiences developed that condition. Why Meghan "wasn't strong enough" demonstrates she did not have this predisposition.

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    2. So Leanne, you would have been better to say, with your understanding of mental illness, that songs like this can TRIGGER underlying negative mindsets over their own body and subsequently, TRIGGER mental illnesses which can manifest in eating disorders.

      But you don't say trigger, you say develop, with an implication that the song is the CAUSE and the disorder is the REACTION/EFFECT

      Just like someone can't cause their eye, hair, or skin colour.

      Just like someone who is attracted to the same sex cannot hope or pray the gay away, because they were born that way.

      Just like someone with an anxiety disorder cannot simply choose to calm down.

      Songs cannot CAUSE mental illness. They can trigger.

      Predisposition = Trigger

      You can't build a tower without a foundation.

      Quick review of the decades
      20s - flappers - shapeless androgyny supported
      30s - During "The Great Depression" having curves showed you were able to feed yourself, unlike the majority of people during this period, it was culturally based aesthetics.
      50s - pinups, 24-26 inch waist
      60s - Twiggy, bringing girls like herself to the forefront and enforcing a model beauty ideal
      70s - Are you really trying to say the punk rock movement was geared towards women with larger proportions?
      90s - Kate Moss and heroin chic
      00s - The size zero saturation in fashion, music, and television.

      4. Final Thoughts

      Whats my opinion on the song? It is a song that promotes body love to a group of largely marginalized women who do not often get an anthem. There are faults, but none of those short faults we're made maliciously, this was her song about her experience, which is why she constantly refers to herself, with obvious throwbacks to "you can't hurry love" and "sexyback". Remember "Mama said you can't hurry love" and "Mama said there'll be days like this" I believe she is making a reference to these songs, and as you promote yourself as a know-it-all when it comes to classic Hollywood and all things during this period, such Motown (more towards the later years), you made this connection as well. She obviously went to her mother, and her mother sought to comfort HER, thats why her mama said it to her.

      And the line in the song where she states "every inch of you is perfect from the bottom to the top" is not being spoken to larger or smaller girls, its an umbrella statement, even though in the prior statement she says "I know you think your fat" any girl, large or small, can have that feeling, and she's trying to distract from those negative thoughts. Further, to drive this issue home, the first time "every inch of you is perfect from the bottom to the top" is dropped in the song, it is immediately preceding "I see the magazine workin' that Photoshop We know that shit ain't real C'mon now, make it stop If you got beauty, beauty, just raise 'em up". Is that line directed at smaller or larger girls? No, it is commentary on photoshop running rampant in published media, it is not geared, another element you ignore.

      So, if you want to keep posting to a public platform about subject matter which is emotionally charged, you should really familiarize yourself with the full scope before you go on a tirade. Do not make sweeping and unsubstantiated statements, and inform yourself.

      And, in case I wasn't abundantly clear, this response is constructive, it is grounded in academia, if you find points which you seek to debate, then converse with me, but I fear you are far more likely to simply censor my voice as it distracts from yours.

      You really should get your megalomania in check.





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  36. Hi Leanne,

    I don't believe that the last few comments are remotely healthy or helpful. Reinforcing a difference of opinion with name calling and expressing a lack of understanding about bodyshaming through more body shaming is getting nobody anywhere.

    I don't disagree with you're insights into the song, i do see that it reeks of body shaming shrouded in a "Hairspray" like, fun pop song. Its combatting bodyshaming with body shaming and this is a huge problem with modern society. I think that instead of dissecting, pop songs and music videos, fashion shows and photoshoots we should really be dissecting our frame of minds. Through the media our minds have been conditioned to find certain shapes, weights and sizes more aesthetically pleasing and therefore more desirable. We should be looking at how we perceive and judge people and instead of shaming them because they are different we should be accepting of the fact that every one is different and diversity is good. Unfortunately I haven't got enough faith in the human race to think that this is possible and I do believe that bodyshaming will unfortunately continue.

    I am a skinny girl. But I too have my body hang ups. For me it was always my bum, ever since I hit puberty it has been the biggest part of me and used to cause me so much stress. It actually got that bad that I gave it a name and laugh about it, you can read about that little story here http://zee-railed.blogspot.ie/2013/10/what-do-jessica-rabbit-and-arctic-truck.html. It has been such a relief for me in the last 2 years that big bums are now in-vogue so I can celebrate it instead of trying to cover it.

    The "All about that Bass" part in Meghan's song really uplifts me and has positive conotations for me, because even as a skinny girl I am all about that bass, and for the first time that I can remember… Thats fine!

    Zita xxx

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    1. Zita,

      Let me converse with you now.

      "Reinforcing a difference of opinion with name calling and expressing a lack of understanding about bodyshaming through more body shaming is getting nobody anywhere"

      Since my part one of the response was posted 5 times, but never showed up, I will post it again, that might clarify a perspective. Name calling? Can you please demonstrate where in that article I name call (not where I quote statements Leanne has previously said). I can really only find one incidence, where I tell her to get her megalomania in check. Well, based on the definition that "Obsession with the exercise of power.; 1.1Delusion about one’s own power or importance" I have time and time again witnessed the censorship of comments that detract from Leanne's narrative on this blog, she is constantly exercising her power over what the readers see. Further, this post, as well as its predecessor consistently reference a delusion that the shaming is equitable (not that shaming doesn't exist on both sides, but that it is equitable), and how her perception of the shaming in the last few years is of the same scope as the decades for other women. The other elements of the responses are rather grounded.

      I do not body shame others, as, if my first entry had posted you would see, I have had friends nearly die, and been saddled with severe issues myself. I don't like to spread negativity, and, although you may find that statement contradictory, I have followed Ms Woodfulls social media for years now, and I can only read so many one sided statements, before I need to voice those who have no voice here.

      "Through the media our minds have been conditioned to find certain shapes, weights and sizes more aesthetically pleasing and therefore more desirable."

      Yes, I agree with you, and in my comments you will also see some cultural origins of these beliefs, so when you state they are not remotely helpful, I think I will have to respectfully disagree. Further, you completely take the strength out of your second statement "We should be looking at how we perceive and judge people and instead of shaming them because they are different we should be accepting of the fact that every one is different and diversity is good. " (a statement which is positive and should be applauded) by following it with

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    2. " It actually got that bad that I gave it a name and laugh about it, you can read about that little story here http://zee-railed.blogspot.ie/2013/10/what-do-jessica-rabbit-and-arctic-truck.html. It has been such a relief for me in the last 2 years that big bums are now in-vogue so I can celebrate it instead of trying to cover it."

      The first part of that, naming your derriere "Jessica" to try and accept it, although not as harsh a statement, is very similar the statement Meghan made about eating disorders, making a joke about something deeply connected to her insecurities.

      The second part, you state you are relieved big bums are en-vogue "so now I can celebrate it instead of trying to cover it", well to preach a positive body acceptance, and then to make a statement that you are gaining a positive body image strictly BECAUSE of media saturation, completely negates your statement. Your validation, by your mouth, is coming from popular media. I can understand not being completely accepting of yourself, we all struggle, but don't denounce others opinions, and preach what you cannot practice.

      Lets clarify, one last time, I DO AGREE that thin shaming exists. But do I think it is to scale with fat shaming? No.
      Do I think we should move towards a time where a number on a scale doesn't matter? Yes. Are we there yet, no.

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    3. Hi Zita,

      I also perused your blog, wanted to see if I had something new to my reading list.
      I found an entry you wrote from August of 2013, in which you were referring to an edited photoset of celebrities.

      You stated " It very aptly reflects the body shape of the average American with over half the population being over weight, thats 176 million people, and out of that 91 million being obese. The average dress size of a woman in america is a size 14 thats a UK size 20!"

      Its not. Its a UK 18. But looking past..
      What, exactly, was the purpose of placing the "!" where you did? The sheer shock and awe at obesity?

      What if a girl stands 5'10, weighs 200, and wears a size 16? Her BMI, although in the "overweight" category, does not place her in the obese category, however, if you find a 14 shocking, a 16 must really set you back. Despite the fact she might work out regularly, and have a bit more of a bum, like yourself. Some of my friends who were competitive athletes in both secondary school and university, were still a size 10-14, thats a UK size 14-18!

      Since you disagree with body shaming, you might familiarize with why your own statements might be hurtful.

      The plus-sized fashion industry still requires an above-average height, and starts at a size 14.
      I dont know about you, but I find the girls on the website below, around size 14-16s (18-20 UK), still beautiful like the girls you post to your blog and instagram. And as you'll notice, should you visit http://www.additionelle.com/en/plus-size-bras, these girls, despite being "plus-sized" have relatively flat stomachs, recognizing that having more fat around the stomach can put you at risk for more health issues.

      http://www.additionelle.com/

      Finally, driving home your body love no matter the size message, and despite stating true facts about the obesity epidemic, one should be careful when injecting exclamation (implying shock) around sizes of people that may be part of your reader base.

      LC

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    4. "Zita Kelly @ZeeRailed · 10h 10 hours ago

      @LeanneWoodfull holy mother there are some crazies commenting on your blog!"

      I guess it is much easier for you to call someone crazy, than to fight valid arguments. What a progressive individual you are.

      Thought the "don't feed the troll" arguments were reserved for 10 year olds on youtube, guess not.

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  37. Leanne's Previous entry.

    "Genetics-wise, both sides of my family are slim-enough. Nobody is madly overweight, apart from one or two beer bellies here and there so weight as such has never been a huge issue for me"

    What you were going for is, your family is relatively slim, a few with slim frames AND beer bellies, but slim. What you wrote was "Nobody is madly overweight, apart from one or two beer bellies here and there" implying a bit of a pudgy tummy registers as "madly overweight". But I'll let this one slide, down to grammar.

    "One of the most common misconceptions regarding exercising and diet-change - and I must emphasise this - is for one reason only: to lose weight. This is NOT TRUE! I want to tone up and become a healthy human who doesn't nearly have a stroke each time I've to run for a bus. I want to start controlling my anxiety and have something productive to focus my energy on. I'm in no way claiming I'm overweight, I just need to tone up and build strength in some areas. Slim people can and do need exercise just as much as anyone and everyones' bodies and needs differ. Remember that!?"

    Completely negated by her previous sentiments about her weight gain comments in the previous paragraphs. It is always good to be healthy, at any size, but the biggest issue she talks about at the beginning is that she gained weight from 1. A change in diet post surgery, and 2. Birth Control "the pill" related gain. Her issue is WEIGHT, which she then shifts to being about health. Its good to get healthy, but to talk about the weight bothering you, and then say its all about health, you are contradicting on some levels.

    Now lets revisit the original "Tuesday, January 21, 2014
    "She Needs To Go Eat A Sandwich!" - The Growth & Acceptance of Size-Shaming In Today's Society"
    "Over the years, magazines have banned underweight models from their pages and the media has taken a stance on stopping the production of content that may trigger eating disorders - but this has caused a massive backlash where people now see slim women as automatically unhealthy/ suffering from an eating disorder/ ugly/ unsexy and not womanly."
    No, there has been a ban on women who generally do not have a healthy bmi, however it is acknowledged that both 1. BMI is not the end all be all to health, some body building gym-rats may be pictures of health, but not have that reflected on their BMI, this can be said the same for thinner individuals. However people that are perceived to have a genuine smaller size, like my previous mention of Karlie Kloss, it is not damaging their media usage in the slightest. Based on your argument, someone who stands 6'-6'1 and fits a US size 0-2, would largely be seen as someone who is underweight and therefore be banned from magazine pages, google her Vogue covers, I see no decline, and that is just one publication. Why is this? Because she is one of those women who is likely genetically predisposed to a smaller weight, add in her ballerina background, and it seems like this is a natural size for her.
    Now lets look at the beautiful Gemma Ward, remember the Chanel Swimsuit debacle? This is a very young woman who was still growing up, and gained some weight, still on the low end of the weight spectrum, but many publications at the time said she had lost her career. She tragically lost a friend/partner not long after this, and retreated for a few years. Lucky Gemma is a strong woman, who's self worth is not tied to media perception of her beauty, but this was only 6 years ago.

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  38. Too far? What about Kylie Bisutti? Now what is the point of mentioning these women? Bisutti and Ward both left the modelling world (Ward has since returned) and the pressures of remaining at weights of 14 year olds who just hit a growth spurt and shot up to 5'10 without gaining weight then growing up and being shredded in their industry for not maintaining a weight (no longer) natural for their frame. Surely if the media had so whole-heartedly committed to banishing perceived underweight models from their pages, than we would be seeing a lot more Ward than Kloss? And, if you are to argue that these women had retired and left the spotlight, and thereby, lost the opportunity to be featured, don't you recall when Coco Rocha went from a size 2-4 to 6 for a minute, and then had to publicly come forward to confirm she was still in demand, despite publications saying her minuscule weight gain changed her position as a top model.
    So, if the media has become so geared to denouncing thin women, and promoting another idea of what a woman should be (for clarification: she should be whatever and whomever she wants to be), than why were these, still very thin women, put in the firing zone, and why are women like Kloss still everywhere? Because this idea of thin shaming is not quite running rampant like you choose to believe.
    And again, why should this matter? Because that 5'9-6'1 girl sitting at home who isn't 115, maybe 130, maybe 165 , maybe 200 (not that it should matter) and sees these women leaving their podiums because they have been deemed 'too big' would certainly start to question what she is seen to be, if these women are too big?
    Should the media have this much of an influence? No. Should beauty come from within? Yes. But you can't write an article about how much the media, which is more geared to your measurements, is hard on your self worth, and ignore the girls who have no figures to look to, and find the ones closest to them, being attacked for being too heavy.
    I agree with Leanne's statement that "Instead of pitching one size up against another, why can't we all accept that women of ALL sizes exist?" However goes on to say "Slim women aren't a figment of the imagination, slim women don't all suffer from bulimia, slim women DO eat and slim women don't bloody deserve such negativity thrown at them on a daily basis." Why not say ALL women don't deserve negativity thrown at them daily?

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  39. And then you make it worse by stating
    "I can completely empathise and understand that curvy women feel that the press and media give them a harder time overall when it comes to their size but that doesn't justify putting down women of a different build in order to boost your own self-esteem and confidence"

    You can "completely empathise and understand that curvy women FEEL that the press and media give them a harder time overall"? Now you are deliberately talking down to the women who are heavier, those who have been shown to be marginalized and denounced as beautiful for decades. You said FEEL. You basically used the non apology "I'm sorry that you feel that way", thereby shifting blame. You are simply pandering to the bigger girl reading your entry, and failing terribly. Its not a FEELING Leanne, its a reality, and if you FEEL that the suffering is the same, than get in touch with a company that specializes in body/specialFX makeup, get in a chubby/fat suit, and walk a few days in their shoes in a major city. And, during that, try to buy clothing.'

    "but that doesn't justify putting down women of a different build in order to boost your own self-esteem and confidence" No, no one should put someone else down in order to boost themselves, however you are laying all the blame on larger women in this statement, we are the ones shelling all of the abuse, which is not the case. In fact, in the same way minorities fear speaking out against an injustice to land in the firing zone themselves, bigger women are less likely to say something to you, because they've spent a lifetime receiving unwelcome comments about their appearance at home, school, and work.
    "Skinny-shaming is just as real and reoccurring as fat-shaming and that's a fact - it isn't a myth, it exists" Again, you reinforce your belief that the two are equal in scope. They are not.
    "Nobody is in any position to claim one size has it harder than the other because the tweets and comments I've shown you prove it comes from all angles."
    Again, revisit my previous statements, it does come from both sides, but it is far more predominant for larger women. If you want to deny that, than you might as well stop calling yourself a fashion blogger here and now.




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  41. This is brilliant and I agree with pretty much most of what you said.

    I think it's great that there has been a shift from skinny to curvy women since many have fallen very ill with disorders such as anorexia and bulimia but the way most people are going about it is so wrong because there are also disorders such as binge eating which some may do so they can have the "bass" which is also just as bad as any other disorder.

    What needs to be taught is acceptance and heath - they should be seen as the most valuable things in regards to how you asses your own body. As you mentioned some people naturally sit at a size 6 and other a size 14 which is completely normal, but what people need to realise is what size is healthy for them!

    I do feel like in order for womens acceptance of their body curvier woman may need to "have their time" as it has been heavily scrutinised and they may feel underprivilaged but hopefully it is a turning point in womens history as now we are all aware of the acceptance of both skinny and curvier (kind of) due to the likes of Kate Moss and Kim Kardasin. I do feel like being 'curvy' in the light of the fashion industry is unrealistic with waists being a small as size 6 and bums and boobs being a size 12! ok that might be a bit of an exaggeration but I'm sure you get my point e.g. Kim Kardasians' Paper magazine shoot which has obviously been photoshopped. The first step is to show industries such as fashion and beauty that we don't care about what they deem to be beautiful or the desired look and that health of both body and mind is what is most important!

    I am very proud you wrote this post Leanne as the song attempting to combat body shamming by using body shaming is sugar coated with fun music to make younger listeners attracted to this opinion which is wrong!

    Natalie xo
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  42. I'm glad you're bringing more awareness of these issues. We can't tell the media what to do, but at least we can influence those who are younger, and more impressionable.Thanks for the post!

    Regards,

    Miss Eliza WonDerland
    www.misselizawonderland.com

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  43. Props to you for having the courage to post this! I agree with ya, and it's sad to see anyone being made to feel bad about their body - regardless of all other factors.

    Alice
    www.ninetynineclub.com

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